Who Was Paul?

What do you know about Paul? You need to know a lot more than what happened on the road to Damascus. Here's what your pastor doesn't want you to know about Paul.

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  1. stevehayes13

    For Saul/Paul it was expedient to remove Christianity from Judaism. For Luke in Acts it was expedient to tie Christianity to Judaism. The writings are for different audiences and have difference purposes, hence the discrepancies.

    August 08, 2017
    1. den_of_iniquity2

      That’s why I don’t believe Luke wrote Acts, even though Bart Ehrman thinks he did.

      August 08, 2017
      1. stevehayes13

        I am not following this. Why do you think the author of Luke is not the author of Acts?

        August 08, 2017
        1. den_of_iniquity2

          Because the story is that Luke was Paul’s travelling companion. It doesn’t follow, therefore, that so much of Luke’s narrative would be in conflict with so much of Paul’s narrative. If they were such close companions, they would most likely be in full agreement on pretty much everything.

          August 08, 2017
          1. stevehayes13

            It is much simpler to dismiss the notion that Luke was Saul/Paul’s companion.

            August 08, 2017
            1. den_of_iniquity2

              Okay, but how was Luke, then, in a position to be an authority on Paul’s travels and teachings?

              August 08, 2017
            2. stevehayes13

              By reading/listening to the stories about Saul/Paul. Just as Mark was able to be an authority on Jesus.

              August 08, 2017
            3. den_of_iniquity2

              Then the author of Acts could have been anyone. Why think it was Luke?

              August 08, 2017
            4. stevehayes13

              Because it looks like the same author.

              August 09, 2017
            5. den_of_iniquity2

              Yes, there are strong similarities between the two books, indicating the same author. However, there is also strong evidence that the author of Acts was one of Paul’s traveling companions. Yet, if that were true, as I have said, why would this Luke and Paul be so contradictory? Your solution is to dismiss the idea that Luke was a traveling companion. But if we want to simply disregard some of the evidence, why not dismiss the evidence that Luke and Acts were written by the same person? And who was that person? Luke? Luke who? Both Luke and Acts are anonymous.
              It’s been quite a while since I read about this, so I just reviewed “Forged”, pages 202-212. Having refreshed my memory, I can say with some conviction that I have no idea. To me, it isn’t very important. It’s a peripheral issue, and probably one that has no definitive answer. I’m comfortable leaving it at that.
              I know Ehrman deals with the issue in other places, and I don’t want to take time to chase it right now. If you do, I’m happy to listen to whatever else you have to say. Until then, I don’t know who wrote those books, or most others. If you believe the author of Luke also wrote Acts, that’s fine with me. I don’t have a problem with that. I have a problem with the idea that the author of Acts was Paul’s traveling companion.

              August 09, 2017
            6. den_of_iniquity2

              Stepping back to the larger picture, what’s important (to me) is that, once again, we have disagreement in the holy, inspired, inerrant Word. The author of Acts (whoever) should be in full agreement with Paul, who should be in complete agreement with all the disciples, all of whom together should be in full agreement with Jesus. Such is not the case. And down go fundagelicals. That’s the point.

              August 09, 2017